Hi all , just after some advice on buying used from a dealer. I'm looking at my first bike and the dealer is asking $3.5k. Now if this was a car, I would normally go in hard and work up from there - but with bikes I don't know how much room there is to move. I'm pretty clear on my budget (need a helmet too!), and I figure taking 15% off the total would be reasonable to start then end up at 10% off the total Would this be reasonable or should I start at 20-25% and finish at 15%. Interesting the bike is offered without warranty (in SA a warranty isn't required) which makes me even more nervous as its my first bike! Thanks all look forward to hearing from you!