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VIC 1st Fair Go Run

Discussion in 'Politics, Laws, Government & Insurance' at netrider.net.au started by Dougz, Jan 9, 2013.

  1. Good to see that you guys are working together with other riders groups. This fcukwit is all but claiming that he is the only riders representative group in Vic! Now do you understand why you must have press releases?? If this shit keeps up any victories you may have 'behind the scenes' will be claimed by him and we'll have this idiot in charge (so to speak)


    1st FAIR GO RUN - MARCH 16, 2013.


    Do you remember when motorcycle riders with a pillion were not allowed
    to go faster than 80 kph in Victoria. Country, two-lane roads where
    semis often did 120 kph, were scary. It was dangerous but no one

    Also in the 1970s motorcycle & scooter learners had different speed
    limits to licenced riders. That meant experienced riders could not
    easily teach novices on-road which was a feature of the club scene.
    And, bikes had to have front number plates. Bikes could only park in
    marked car bays which drivers hated. There were moves to make riders
    wear yellow and have all machines painted yellow. Similar laws and
    proposals existed across Australia.

    In 1978 we started the Motorcycle Riders' Association in Melbourne and
    Bikers Ltd began in Sydney. They were people power organisations that
    encouraged rider involvement. In 1980 we initiated the 10,000 BIKE RUN
    and worked with Bikers Ltd and the Federation of Australian
    Motorcyclists (ACT) to make it happen. We rode on Canberra to let all
    governments know that we were a well-organised voting block and we
    were not going to take it anymore. More than 12,000 bikes from all
    over Australia rolled into the nation's capital demanding to be heard.

    Big runs demonstrated rider groups organising abilities and political
    muscle. Thousands of riders in disciplined columns showed politicians
    that we would would remember them at the next election and told car
    drivers that we have a right to ride. There were far fewer registered
    motorcycles & scooters in the 1980s but the protest runs were much,
    much bigger.

    The attached pictures are from the second pillion law protest run. It
    went from Melbourne to Geelong, obeying the law, riding at 80 kph in
    the left lane. Traffic that usually travelled at over 100 kph banked
    up as only one lane was available to pass the column of more than 4000
    bikes stretching an estimated 10 kilometres.

    One of the pillions that day was a young back-bench MP named Jeff
    Kennett. Kennett was on Chris Swalell's Kawasaki 900. As semis roared
    passed in the rain Kennett came to understand why the 80 kph pillion
    speed restriction was just plain dangerous (as were the differential
    limits for novice riders).

    The 80 kph pillion law was repealed that year.

    Bikers' Ltd led the national fight to rid us of from number plates.

    Over the last decade rider representation became the role of the few,
    not the many. Moves to bring back front number plates, make flouro
    gear compulsory, govern bike motors, bring in anti-association laws,
    restrict Victoria's footpath parking, separate motorcycles & scooters
    from car traffic and more have been made by various authorities. TAC
    used our money to make a series of TV ads vilifying riders and
    justifying bad/aggressive car driving.

    Rider participation in public events dwindled. Even the BLOOD
    CHALLENGE ended after 30 years in Victoria when police withdrew with
    Red Cross blessing. Again this summer the blood bank is making
    desperate appeals for donors as blood stocks dwindle over the
    holidays. The Melbourne TOY RUN is no longer in Melbourne. Driver
    Awareness Rides ended.

    The MRAV declined and became a social club! Of necessity the
    Independent Riders Group (IRG), which began as a think tank around
    2006, went formal on July 1, 2012.

    In 2012 400 bikes at the A'Beckett Street Protest on October 29 was
    considered a reasonable show of strength. That event grew out of a
    facebook page. It was a grass roots response to discrimination
    against motorcycle & scooter riders.

    In December 2012 the Parliamentary Inquiry into motorcycle & scooter
    safety (PIMS) delivered it's report. The recommendations are good but
    they are just that, recommendations. If you don't want the
    recommendations brought in, DO NOTHING.


    The PIMS recommendations include abolishing the discriminatory TAC
    antibike tax. The hidden TAC tax means riders pay over $70 a year, and
    rising, on most road bikes.

    http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/abo ... e-tax.html

    If YOU want those recommendations to become realities, YOU have to use
    political muscle. That means very public, on-road people power, as in
    the 1980s. We have to tell our politicians that we know there's a
    state election in 2014 and we'll vote according to their actions
    implementing the PIMS recommendations.

    We also need to send a clear road safety message to car drivers. Too
    many of us are having our property smashed, our bodies broken and, too
    often, our lives taken because a car driver does the wrong thing. Too
    often car drivers get a slap on the wrist for it. Take a moment to
    think about the last rider you visited in hospital or the last riders'
    funeral you attended. We are legitimate road users who pay our way and
    we demand a fair go on our roads.

    The first FAIR GO RUN will be on Saturday, March 16, 2013.

    Riders are invited to assemble at the BP servo on the corner of Cooper
    Street and Scanlon Drive in Campbellfield - Melway map 181, reference
    E 11. All welcome. The more flags and banners the better. Businesses
    and organisations are welcome to attend to show solidarity with their

    The column will depart for the marginal seat of Seymour at 10.00 am.
    It is about an hour's run up the Hume to the electoral office of Cindy
    McLeish MP in Wallis Street. Riders from the north, east and west are
    invited to join us there. We are all in this together.

    About 11.30 am speakers will tell the government, opposition and the
    media what can be done to win votes from Victoria's 326,000 strong
    motorcycle & scooter community. Members from both sides of parliament
    will be asked to speak to the assembled riders.

    After the speeches riders are invited to lunch at the Flowerdale Pub -
    Melway map X927, reference J 2. The Flowerdale is the hub of some of
    the best riding roads in Australia.


    PLEASE use this material as you see fit - put it on webistes and
    facebook, pin it on notice boards, email it to friends, use it in
    magazines and newsletters and raise it at club meetings. Get the word
    out there. Watch the blog for more details.

    Join the IRG. It's free. You can withdraw anytime. All we need is a
    name, post code and email address.

    Please pass this on.

    Have a safe & happy new year!

    Damien Codognotto OAM
    Independent Riders' Group
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  2. Honestly dougz, if you didn't post it here I doubt anyone else would have read it either.
  3. Really? Well I've seen it twice this morning on two different forums.
  4. Dougz is right in the respect that not enough riders are aware of who and what VMC is. I regularly encounter riders who still think MRA is the political representative body. Although few know about IRG either.
    VMC is getting a bit more traction as the response point in the media though. Which is a good thing.
  5. I received the exact same IRG email message from Change.org on Jan 3rd.

    "This message is from Angus Constable-Townsend, who started the petition "The Hon. Terry Mulder MP Minister of Transport,Victoria: STOP the threat of Hi-ViS clothing for motorbikes made compulsory.," which you signed on Change.org"

    Yep, I signed that petition last year and now it seems that change.org emails me whatever MC related info they have on.

    I would assume that DC's protest run info was sent to everyone else who signed that petition.
  6. I wonder if signing it made them 'automatically' members of IRG?
  7. I fkn hope not. no info came to me direct from DC of IRG, just from change.org.
  8. I saw that on another forum
  9. This is the same lying little toerag who claimed on his blog that Detlef Lamp and I were actively working to get rid of footpath parking in Victoria because we were members of the Council's Motorcycles in Melbourne Committee.

    He really is a waste of space.
  10. I just googled Angus Constable-Townsend and he has got this change.org message on EVERY bike forum. He does not appear to be an agent for IRG on the face of it, more of a political activist from Brisvegas, he has picked up on and run with many MC related topics including IRG's post MotoGP Elizabeth St rally and the upcoming Seymour run.

    He is very effective, maybe VMC should take a leaf out of his book.
  11. Most people don't realise that DC's also claimed in the past that motorcycles should be limited to 1000ccs. He once filed a formal complaint years ago about a Suzuki advert 'glorifying" power. The complaint was dismissed **

    He's not known as "The Harold Scruby of Motorcyling" for nothing...

    **Grant (Wolve) can probably find the correspondence somewhere in the archives.
  12. 2nd or 3rd time I've seen it.
  13. #13 robsalvv, Jan 9, 2013
    Last edited: Jan 9, 2013
    So tackle him Dougz. He doesn't represent you, let him know.

    DC and his IRG organisation are part of the landscape, that's reality. Nothing anyone can do about it. No one else in advocacy is a full time advocate, DC is. Until riders and industry are ready to put their hand in their pocket to fund a credible full time advocacy group, this is the landscape we have.

    At the moment, IRG is an unincorporated, unconstitutioned self appointed body that can represent individual riders. Until VMC's constitution can be rewritten, VMC speaks on behalf of riders that are represented by the member clubs, and by extension all riders. It's a bit like non union workers getting the benefits of the wins the unions obtain.

    The fact is, there's a disquiet amongst some riders who just want to see something, anything, any kind of movement in any shape or form, on the motorcycling front. This is because of a build up of negative press and enforcement oppression over a long period of time. DC is promising these riders action, noise, movement and is picking up some supporters as a result. Making promises for the sake of picking up support is not what VMC is about.

    The problem with dancing to the tune of the generally disgruntled is that you can't develop a overall strategy and you will get many more "hi viz protests" and a bunch more hobbie horse issues flooding the table. These personal, possibly baseless issues are essentially inneffective issues and aren't likely to get any traction or action in the politicosphere, especially if the issues come from a point of general whinging rather that factual / evidenced based.

    Getting behind rally's and making some noise will win DC some supporters. The pressure will be on him though to be effective for those that support him.

    For interests sake, here's a little story: a little while ago, I got a very ranting email from a rider who was convinced about all sorts of negative rhetoric about Vicroads. He wanted action, he wanted VMC to prove its bondafides by tackling Vicroads and obtaining a victory for riders. What the victory looked like wasn't defined, he just wanted Vicroads to be given a smackdown. The fact was, there was/is already general, open and frank ongoing discussion with Vicroads on a number of issues. and there isn't an obvious antimotorcycling bias in that discussion. This rider didn't believe it so he's gone to IRG as DC believes Vicroads is still blatantly anti motorcycling. I would have thought being able to pick up the phone and have an amicable friendly chat with one of the key road safety agencies was a big win already... but there's no point trying to win over the heart and mind of someone who doesn't want to be won over.

    Anyway, the fairgo rally is on the agenda to be discussed.
  14. leaving aside DC's track record of stuff that people don't like, his point that 30 years ago when there was a lot fewer bikes than there is now, huge protests were mounted and were effective seems hard to disclaim....
  15. That's a good point.

    30 years ago (circa 1980) there was something like 40,000 registered bikes in Victoria (might try to track down the actual number if I can). Most of those riders were living the motorcycle lifestyle and were part of strong club networks. It was a totally different era to the discretionary mod con demographic we have today. If DC doesn't realise this, then he's treading water in a billabong. Those days are long gone unfortunately.
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  16. And people wonder why I often question statements like "the more riders we have on the road the better".

    I was but a mere pup in 1980 (15 in fact) but I'm also going to assume that there weren't the massive ego's involved then either.
  17. FWIW, they also had 3 times the fatality rate of today's riders.
  18. My guess is that the overall fatality rate was considerably higher then.
  19. True.
  20. but it was a simpler world. these days politicians handle protests as a matter of course. they quite effectively ignored the last one.

    don't give the fcuker air